Pondering the Pundits: Sunday Preview Edition

Pondering the Pundits: Sunday Preview Edition” is an Open Thread. It is a selection of editorials and opinions from around the news medium and the internet blogs. The intent is to provide a forum for your reactions and opinions, not just to the opinions presented, but to what ever you find important.

On Sunday mornings we present a preview of the guests on the morning talk shows so you can choose which ones to watch or some do something more worth your time on a Sunday morning.

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The Sunday Talking Heads:

This Week with George Stephanopolis: The guests on Sunday’s “This Week” are: Gov. Phil Murphy (D-NJ); Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-LA); and White House National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow.

The roundtable guests are: ABC News Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton; former Trump Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Adviser Tom Bossert; ABC News Chief Business Correspondent Rebecca Jarvis, and ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl.

Face the Nation: Host Margaret Brennan’s guests are: Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner; Dr. Ginrico Farrugia, president and CEO of the Mayo Clinic; Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-LA); Dr. David Heymann, WHO special adviser. and Steven Mnuchin, Treasury secretary.

Meet the Press with Chuck Todd: The guests on this week’s “MTP” are: 2020 Democratic presidential candidate former V. Pres. Joe Biden; Dr. Deborah Birx, White House Covid-19 response coordinator; Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI); and Gov. John Bel Edwards (D-LA);

The panel guests are: Hugh Hewitt, conservative radio talk show host; Carol Lee, national political reporter for NBC News; Andrea Mitchel, NBC News Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent; and Eugene Robinson, Washington Post columnist.

State of the Union with Jake Tapper: Mr. Tapper’s guests are: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA); Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI); Gov. Pete Ricketts (R-NE); Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA)); Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute for Allergies and Infectious Diseases; 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT); and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio

Natural Selection

I think a nice selective plague to cull the herd is exactly what the situation requires. Thanos is egalitarian, but indiscriminate.

So, what about Dolphins?

I mean, at The Snap it wasn’t just Humans. What about Ants?

Who wants to travel anyway?

I mean, I don’t mind being kicked out of The Villages (a geriatric sex club) because I’d never go there.

If I can’t get out to the Store I’ll starve to death, not to mention my meds.

Here are a bunch of places you won’t miss-

House

Committee to Re-Elect the President.

Do I Creep You Out – “Weird Al” Yankovic

The Creep – the lonely island featuring Nicki Minaj and John Waters

Creep – Radiohead

The Breakfast Club (Thank You)

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This Day in History

An accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant; Former President Dwight Eisenhower dies; The Spanish Civil War ends; Maria von Trapp of ‘Sound of Music’ fame dies; Singer Reba McEntire born.

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Something to Think about over Coffee Prozac

Oh, that lovely title, ex-president.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Some Ads

Make no mistake, Priorities USA is the Joe Biden Super Pac. Here’s the one that’s causing the Prior Restraint controversy.

That was released 4 days ago along with these 3 others-

And this a mere 4 hours ago-

I don’t post them because we’re paid. We don’t do Ads nor do we solicit Donations.

Pondering the Pundits

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Paul Krugman: On Coronavirus, We’re #1

But we’re doing some things right despite Trump.

It’s hard to believe, but just a month ago Donald Trump and his henchmen were dismissing the coronavirus as a nonevent. On Feb. 26 Trump declared that “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be close to zero.” His remark came a day after Larry Kudlow, his administration’s chief economist, declared that the virus was almost completely contained, and that the economy was “holding up nicely.”

There are now more than 82,000 cases in the U.S. — we don’t know how many more, because we’re still lagging far behind on testing. But that makes us the world’s coronavirus epicenter, and the U.S. trajectory is worse than that of any other country.

As for the economy: Last week more than three million workers filed for unemployment insurance, a number that is completely off the scale even as many others who are suddenly out of work aren’t eligible for unemployment benefits. We’re clearly losing jobs even faster than at the worst moments of the 2008-9 financial crisis, when we were losing “only” 800,000 per month.

Trump’s dismissal and denial played a large role in getting us to this point. And he should be held accountable. But the crucial question now is whether we’re doing enough to cope with the catastrophe.

And the answer is no. We’re doing some of what we should be doing, mainly thanks to the efforts of Democratic governors and Democratic members of Congress — a statement that may sound partisan, but is the simple truth. But we’re still falling down on crucial fronts, mainly because even now Trump and his party aren’t taking the threat seriously.

Katrina vanden Heuvel: The coronavirus’s threat to democracy itself

The coronavirus pandemic poses a terrifying threat to life and a staggering test to our leaders. The unseemly spectacle of lawmakers scrambling to craft a response in the midst of a corporate lobbying feeding frenzy reveals that neither the president nor the legislators yet comprehend the scope of the action needed. The focus, naturally, has been on how to mobilize to meet health-care needs, help Americans survive an economic calamity that is no fault of their own and revive the economy without letting Wall Street and corporate lobbies steal us blind. But we must not forget this virus’s threat to democracy itself: Any reform package must include dramatic steps to guarantee that Americans can vote this fall. It is time for Congress to pass universal vote-at-home (better known as vote-by-mail) legislation.

The virus’s toll on our election system is already plain to see. Several states have postponed their primaries. In states that went ahead, voters increasingly were wary of going to the polls. Many states shut down polling places, moving them out of nursing homes and other places at risk. Many scrambled to find polling workers, as elderly volunteers chose not to risk their lives.

This problem isn’t going away. Nearly one-fourth of all voters in 2020 will be 65 or older — the very people who are most vulnerable to the virus and should be the most wary of going to crowded polling stations to cast their ballots. A majority of polling workers are over 60 years old. With the White House already warning against gatherings of 10 or more, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommending keeping a distance of six feet from others, and other states and cities considering joining California and New York in mandatory lockdowns, no one should pretend that we can run the remaining 2020 primaries and the general election as if it were business as usual.

Catherine Rampell: The sleeper issue of the current economic crisis

States are facing huge shortages — and not just of ventilators, masks and health-care personnel.

They’re about to confront enormous budget shortages, too. This is the sleeper issue of the current economic crisis, and aiding states now could well be the difference between a brief recession and a prolonged depression.

Particularly in ailing regions of the United States that still haven’t recovered from the last recession.

The bill the Senate passed Wednesday would give state and local governments $150 billion to help plug budget holes. It also includes $31 billion for local schools and colleges. That money is definitely welcome.

But it will be nowhere near sufficient to prevent cascading state and local government layoffs and cuts to critical public services that otherwise lie ahead. For context: States suffered a cumulative $600 billion revenue shortfall in the first five years after the Great Recession hit.

And there are ample reasons to believe the fiscal crunch could be worse this time around. Many states entered this dual public health and economic emergency in poor budgetary shape, with too little in their “rainy day” funds to handle this Noah-style deluge. As of late last year, only about half the states had the funds they need to weather even a moderate recession, according to Moody’s Analytics.

Seemingly every state will take a huge hit, for different reasons.

Richard Wolffe: No greater love hath Trump than to lay down your life for his re-election

Only a once-in-a-century leader has the guts to say out loud what the worst among us are really thinking: everyone other than me is expendable

Donald Trump isn’t much of a doctor or scientist. He isn’t much of a diplomat or general. His leadership skills match his business skills. There’s a reason his companies went bankrupt so many times.

But he might just be a pioneer with this idea of letting people die for the sake of the country. Only a once-in-a-century leader has the guts to say out loud what the worst among us are really thinking: everyone other than me is expendable.

Anyone older is past it, for sure. The younger ones we can easily afford to lose: they don’t actually pay for anything. The smarter ones? Totally annoying. The dumber ones: what’s even the point?

The sick are a real drain on us, financially and emotionally. The poor won’t really do much in the long run, no matter how hard we try. The wealthy just keep shoving it in your face. Foreigners aren’t like us at all. And our neighbors are frankly a bit too close for comfort.

So when you add it all up, it’s only sensible that we ask everyone else to sacrifice themselves for us. For the sake of the nation and all that’s good, please just go, so that the rest of us – not counting the undesirables – can get back to our old lives.

Amanda Marotte: The Christian right’s hostility to science is definitely going to get people killed

The Christian right has long been hostile to science. Now that attitude will make the pandemic much worse

Scientists and health experts largely agree on the steps needed to fight COVID-19, the rapidly spreading new coronavirus: Widespread testing, if possible. Widespread and often stringent social distancing protocols in communities where it’s taken root, to slow the spread. Hygienic practices like frequent hand-washing and sterilizing commonly touched surfaces. Protective gear, like masks in medical settings, to keep health care professionals from catching it and spreading it.

But when it comes to conservative evangelical Christians, who are already hostile to science on many levels, advice from health experts is all too often being treated as something that can be dismissed out of hand, if it threatens the political or theological goals of their movement.

To be clear, Christian right leaders aren’t denying that coronavirus is a real problem (at least not anymore). If anything, the bevy of snake oil salesman who call themselves ministers sees the panic around the virus as a marketing opportunity to make money from selling dangerous supplements, to declare the virus can be beaten with the power of prayer and to declare that the pandemic is a divine punishment inflicted on sinners.

But Christian right leaders are also not about to let medical science supersede their authority, much less get in the way of their quest for power and cold, hard cash. Because of this, the Christian right has become a vector of bad advice, misinformation and dreadful business decisions that are directly threatening the health not just of their followers, but the public at large.

Cooties

What’s that German word for taking joy in the misery of others?

Schadenfreude?

This is what “Herd Immunity” gets you-

Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock in self-isolation with coronavirus
by Kate Proctor and Matthew Weaver, The Guardian
Fri 27 Mar 2020

Boris Johnson and the health secretary, Matt Hancock, have tested positive for coronavirus, they revealed on Friday, leaving them each to work in isolation on leading the government’s efforts to tackle the pandemic.

The prime minister, who is 55, will self-isolate for seven days in his flat above No 11 Downing Street after announcing that he had mild symptoms of a cough and temperature.

Johnson received the result at midnight, just hours after he was seen outside the door of No 10 clapping in support of NHS workers, alongside the chancellor, Rishi Sunak.

Hancock, who has responsibility for the NHS, said he would self-isolate until next Thursday.

Both men have been in repeated contact with senior political figures, including cabinet members, and advisers in the last few days. But despite the two men testing positive, no other ministers, nor the chief medical officer or chief scientific officer would be tested for the virus unless they showed symptoms, Downing Street said.

The prime minister’s official spokesman said on Friday: “The prime minister’s symptoms are mild and he is continuing to do all of the same functions he was performing before. The only difference is now he will have to do that by teleconferencing.”

Johnson chaired Friday morning’s Covid-19 meeting of government ministers and health experts. His regular audience with the Queen has been conducted by phone for at least two weeks.

Although the foreign secretary is officially the person who steps in to cover the prime minister’s role if he is incapacitated, there are no plans for Dominic Raab to stand in for Johnson.

Oh, “Herd Immunity”. It’s kind of the same concept as the Chickenpox/Coronavirus Parties here in the U.S., get sick now and you won’t get sick again.

Only this is not Chickenpox, it’s more like Smallpox.

Or Bubonic Plague-

“How do you know he’s a King?”

“He doesn’t have filth all over him.”

Oops.

Prince Charles Tests Positive for Coronavirus
By Mark Landler, The New York Times
March 25, 2020

Prince Charles, the eldest son of Queen Elizabeth II and the heir to the British throne, has contracted the coronavirus, Buckingham Palace said on Wednesday, adding that he had been suffering from mild symptoms since last weekend.

Medical advisers said that Charles was otherwise in good health and that they did not expect the virus to develop into a more serious illness, according to an official at the palace. But Charles, who is 71, met with the queen on March 12 — only a day before the advisers said it was possible that he became infectious with the virus.

The prince’s illness, and his potential exposure to the queen and other members of the royal family, rattled an already nervous Britain, which has seen the number of cases and deaths accelerate rapidly over the last few days, prompting b>Prime Minister Boris Johnson to put the country into a virtual lockdown.

Buckingham Palace said the queen, who turns 94 next month, “remains in good health.” She sequestered herself in Windsor Castle last week with her husband, Prince Philip, who is 98, saying that she and her family would follow the social distancing guidelines set out by the government.

I dunno, could be we’re actually down to Harry and Meghan, that would be embarrassing.

On the serious side, mild symptoms of Coronavirus are mild only in comparison with Death.

I probably have a ‘mild to moderate’ case of covid-19. I don’t think I could survive worse.
By David Von Drehle, Washington Post
March 24, 2020

The first symptom was fever. I figured I had the flu. No such luck. The mild to moderate symptoms of this coronavirus make garden-variety flu seem like a tea party. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) described the relentless, soul-sapping fever as being hit by “a ton of bricks.” It’s funny: Thirty years ago, Mario was a hotshot young politician and I was a hotshot young reporter in Miami. I don’t think either one of us spent much time thinking about malaise. Now we are a couple of aging gentlemen flattened by a ton of bricks.

My image is more particular. Seven days into the waves of fever, I was drifting half in and half out of sleep. I was wearing a down jacket with the hood cinched around my head. I was buried under the covers, teeth chattering. A week like that is a very long time. (Nine days, and counting, is still longer.)

In my weird dream, I was on the high-winter prairie. I was on horseback. The ground was black mud, and where the animals stepped, the impressions of their shoes froze almost immediately. Meanwhile, a hard, freezing rain was falling, filling the ruts with ice water. I fell from the horse into the mud. The horse kept walking over me. I couldn’t stand up.

Those are my mild to moderate symptoms. And I’m thankful for them. Because I don’t have certain other symptoms — not yet. My headaches have been few. For many covid-19 sufferers, the headaches are excruciating. My lungs are working well, which means I don’t have to enter the hospital.

Good. I live in fear I should get a scratch that requires stitches. Sitting in a Waiting Room strikes me as volunteering to attend one of BoJo’s Coronavirus Parties to acquire my “Herd Immunity”.

Do I know someone with Coronavirus?

Well, speculatively. His test hasn’t come back yet but he was at a funeral with several other people who tested positive and right now he’s in ICU in a Medically Induced Coma.

And I don’t know him all that well, he’s someone who used to be my Boss at one of my gigs- haven’t seen him in years.

He appears to be recovering, they took him off the Ventilator.

But if you just can’t get enough irony in the Aristotilian sense-

Christian pastor who thought COVID-19 is just ‘mass hysteria’ among the first from Virginia to die from virus
By Sky Palma, Raw Story
March 26, 2020

One of the first deaths of a Virginian from coronavirus was a 66-year-old Christian “musical evangelist” who fell ill while on a trip to New Orleans with his wife. As the Friendly Atheist’s Bo Gardiner points out, Landon Spradlin had previously shared opinions that the pandemic was the result of “mass hysteria” from the media.

On March 13, Spradlin shared a misleading meme that compared coronavirus deaths to swine flu deaths and suggested the media is using the pandemic to hurt Trump. In the comments, Spradlin acknowledged that the outbreak is a “real issue,” but added that he believes “the media is pumping out fear and doing more harm than good”

“It will come and it will go,” he wrote.

That same day, he shared a post from another pastor that told the story of a missionary in South Africa who “protected” himself from the bubonic plague with the “Spirit of God.”

“As long as I walk in the light of that law [of the Spirit of life], no germ will attach itself to me,” read a quote from the post.

You have to understand that Fundamentalist Christians are Death Worshippers who want to get to that Big Rock Candy Mountain in the Sky and sit at the Right Hand of the Lord because their life here sucks.

I like to pretend I’m more optimistic than that.

Cartnoon

Well, these ships are great but the USNS Comfort (1000 beds) won’t get to New York City for at least a couple of weeks and it’s optimized for Trauma, not Infectious Diseases so like the USNS Mercy (deployed to Los Angeles last I checked) it’s going to be a parking space for everything except Coronavirus.

I’m not sure why Andrew Cuomo is so excited about it other than he’s trying to suck up so he gets the other stuff he needs.

The Breakfast Club (Luck)

Welcome to The Breakfast Club! We’re a disorganized group of rebel lefties who hang out and chat if and when we’re not too hungover we’ve been bailed out we’re not too exhausted from last night’s (CENSORED) the caffeine kicks in. Join us every weekday morning at 9am (ET) and weekend morning at 10:00am (ET) (or whenever we get around to it) to talk about current news and our boring lives and to make fun of LaEscapee! If we are ever running late, it’s PhilJD’s fault.

This Day in History

Martin Luther King Jr.’s son meets James Earl Ray in prison for assassinating his father; Comedian Milton Berle dies; the FDA approves Viagra; Quentin Tarantino is born.

Breakfast Tunes

Something to Think about over Coffee Prozac

I believe in luck: how else can you explain the success of those you dislike?

Jean Cocteau

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